07/14/2005 6:18 AM Pacific Time
Presently I attach my jib sheets to the jib with a snap shackle. It was working Ok until recently. It wants to come off the jib in higher winds. I really do not want to attach the sheets directly to the jib as I sail with two jibs. How do most people attach their jib sheets to the jib?
Huber Heights, Ohio
Boat Name: Spindrift
Hull No. #8717
Hailing Port: Buck Creek, Ohio
07/14/2005 7:37 AM Pacific Time
A snap shackle is very dangerous, especially if you have it to change sails. That means someone goes forward to make the change and could get clobbered by the shackle.
I have separate lines and attach them with a bowline. Not as quick as a snap shakle, but softer when hit. I used to use a single line and just looped it through the eye at the clew, but that would be even more difficult to change.
Hull No. 12030
Hailing Port: Kemah, TX
07/14/2005 10:22 AM Pacific Time
Bob is right, the tradtional and safest method is to use a bowline. Though I have seen figure 8 knots work ok also. Snap shackles are really for situations where you need a quick release. They are most commonly used on spinnakers, though their weight works against you in light air. Some really large boats use snap shackes because they do numerous headsail changes and due to the high loads put on the sheets, the bowlines may be difficult to untie.
Now that many are leaving their sheets attached on the spinnaker take down (so they are ready for the relaunch), you may get away with bowlines there too. Any thoughts on this anybody?
Model/Year: 1981 C22
Hull No. 10161
Hailing Port: Lake Sinclair, Milledegville, Ga
07/14/2005 1:12 PM Pacific Time
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I guess I will be going to a bowline.
Boat Name: Reflections
Hull No. 13369
Hailing Port: Melbourne Australia
07/14/2005 11:13 PM Pacific Time
Don't know the name of knot, if it is one, but I have a single length of line with a loop seized in the middle - I take the loop through the clew and then pass the ends of the sheets through the loop and draw it up tight. Seems to hang up less on the shrouds. Makes it a little harder to swap headsails though because you have to pull the sheets out of the fairleads and then run them back again.
|R. C. Luiken
Boat Name: Ricochet
Model/Year: C-22 Swing Keel/1986
Hull No. 13560
Hailing Port: Milford, DE/St. Michaels, MD
07/15/2005 3:36 AM Pacific Time
A minor point when tieing your bowline. Make certain the bitter end of your bowline is pointed away from the shrouds. This reduces the possibility of the knot hanging on the shroud when coming about
Boat Name: Selkie
Model/Year: C22 Fin 1977
Hull No. 7817
Hailing Port: Lake Rathbun, IA
07/15/2005 4:29 AM Pacific Time
I have heard two names for the knot you're referring to Paul but I only remember one. It is called a Lark's Head knot. I use it myself on the Jib.
I have a couple of head sails and two jib sheets but sometimes I wind up having to change the sheets anyway and I think tieing two bowlines might be faster than finding the middle of the line and running it all the way through the tack cringle to tie the lark's head but I still prefer it. It presents almost no resistence to getting pulled across the the shrouds when tacking.
07/15/2005 5:27 AM Pacific Time
we use a method that will minimize the knots and also provide a good attachment for your whisker pole. place an eye splice in the end of each sheet. then place a eye splice in a short length of 1/4 inch line (about 15" of finished length), push the bitter end through both eye splices of the jib sheets and back through the eye of the 1/4 inch piece. this attaches both sheets together. then tie the 1/4 inch bitter end to the jib clew. you should end up with a 5-6" space between the clew and the sheets. the result is a very small knot that is less likely to hang up on the shrouds and provide an attachment point for the end of the pole that will not slip down the sheet.
New Bern, NC
Boat Name: Impromptu
Model/Year: C22 1985
Hull No. 13021
Hailing Port: Northwest Creek Marina
07/15/2005 6:31 AM Pacific Time
I used to have 2 seperate lines as jib sheets attached with bowline's. When I replaced the sheet with a single length of line, I tried the cow hitch (Lark's Head) and it works well - does not slip at all. My sheets are dedicated to each headsail, so I don't have to worry about untying the knots.
|Michael & Barbara Day
Boat Name: Godspeed II
Hull No. 5316
Hailing Port: Howard Prairie Lake
07/15/2005 8:02 AM Pacific Time
If the expense of having a separate, single line for each headsail isn't a problem, you might use a cats paw knot, for attaching to the sail. Equally double the line, pass it thru the clew and pass the bitter ends thru the loop. Pull it tight and it won't slip.
Boat Name: Jubilation
Model/Year: Catalina 22 SK, 1975
Hull No. 4982
Hailing Port: Rico's Bay
04/26/2006 11:34 AM Pacific Time
There was an article in a Catalina National Sailing Association "Main Brace" issue within the last year that addressed this issue. Unfortunately I do not remember the details but it was a very slick way of making a safe-quick change jib sheet connection using rope. Hope you find it.
Severna Park MD 21146
Boat Name: Nifty
Hull No. CTYH7999M78B
Hailing Port: Round Bay
04/26/2006 1:31 PM Pacific Time
The article is in Bob and Trish Endicott's "On the Hook" pp 6, volume 33, No.5, September 2005: MainBrace.