Rich Reisner Fayston, VT
Boat Name: Meant 2 Be
Model/Year: C-22 1985
Hull No. 13049
Hailing Port: Charlotte, VT |
07/13/2004 3:34 PM Pacific Time
I saw an ad for a C-22 for sale with a marine head. The current owner bought it that way and does not know how it got there. Has anyone seen and/or installed a marine head and holding tank on a C-22?
We do extensive cruising and the porta-potty gets filled often with pumpouts a bit of a problem.
Thanks for your help.
Rich |
mark miller deatsville al
Boat Name: blue heron
Model/Year: catalina 22 1977
Hull No. 7309
Hailing Port: lake jordan |
07/29/2004 4:33 PM Pacific Time
Rich, I'm not sure where you cruise, but a head/holding tank seems to be overkill in a 22' boat. I would consider taking it out and replacing it with a portable head. I currently do mostly day sails and a 5 gallon bucket with a snap top toilet lid for the ladies and a gatorade bottle for the guys (both for cool weather sailing, otherwise just swim) fits the bill nicely. When we start cruising weekends/overnights we'll buy another Sanipotti. So far, we've had no need for "#2's" in the bucket......hope my luck holds out until I can buy that potapotti! |
Tim Seifert
Boat Name: Mary's Joy
Model/Year:
Hull No. 8281
Hailing Port: Holyrood, Newfoundland |
06/23/2005 5:44 AM Pacific Time
Can you provide anymore information about the marine head? What brand/model? Where is it mounted? Where is the holding tank? Did you install one? I am thinking about installing a marine head instead of the portapotti. |
Rich Reisner Fayston, VT
Boat Name: Meant 2 Be
Model/Year: C-22 1985
Hull No. 13049
Hailing Port: Charlotte, VT |
07/12/2005 7:52 AM Pacific Time
Tim,
We thought about a conversion but instead we purchased a model #155 Thetford porta potti which holds 4.1 gal. of black water.(approx. $90 from Cabela's). If you currently have the model #135 (which holds 2.6 gal. of waste), you can use the same top portion for both "holding tanks". This gives you a total of 6.9 gal. of waste holding. Enough for most cruises. Model #155 is only 2 inches higher than the #135.
Warm water areas saves space!!
good luck.
Rich |
Kevin Murphy Carmichael, CA
Boat Name: Booyah!
Model/Year: 1973 Catalina 22
Hull No. #2526
Hailing Port: Carmichael, CA |
07/13/2005 9:44 AM Pacific Time
When I bought my '73, it still had the original permanent head up forward under the boards that support the v-berth cushions with no holding tank and two thru-hulls. I gave some thought to keeping the head and adding a holding tank but as you know there is not a lot of space for that sort of thing on board a 22!
So I pulled out the permanent head, glassed over the thru hulls (who needs three holes in a boat?) and installed a Sealand Portable/Permanent Head with a 5.2 gallon holding tank. A portable/permanent head is the best of both worlds - you can cut a deck pump-out opening above the head and plumb the head to it permanently, thus you now have a permanent 5-gallon holding tank. Or you can keep it as a portable and remove the head's holding tank the old-fashioned way and begin the long walk down the dock. I believe, however, once you install it as a "permanent" head, you can't disconnect the holding tank to empty it manually - you always have to find a pump-out station.
On my '73 at least, the oversized 5.2 gallon just fits in the space adjacent to the v-berth and the board supports just fit over the top. It's not a perfect fit (the board over the head "teeters" a little bit) but with the cushions on you can't tell. With the larger 5.2 gallon, you also "ride" much higher, which I like, but make sure you don't hit your head on the ceiling liner!
Whatever you decide to do, make sure to take careful measurements. While I went with the Sealand, the Thetford alternative is suppose to be just as good. Good luck!
|
Steven Keplinger Severna Park MD 21146
Boat Name: Nifty
Model/Year: 1978
Hull No. CTYH7999M78B
Hailing Port: Round Bay |
07/13/2005 10:57 AM Pacific Time
Mine (7999sk) is set up much the same. But I'm still hanging in with a portable. Let us know how you like it after a few days on the water... |
Pat Noonan Fairhope, Al
Boat Name: Blue Dog
Model/Year: ?
Hull No. ?
Hailing Port: Fairhope, Al |
11/25/2008 4:14 AM Pacific Time
Pull out the head and sell it. Use a bucket. I wish I had that advise a couple of months ago. I hauled my Columbia 30 to repair a broken handel on the discharge seacock from the head. After that decided to grease and repair the intake seacock under the sink in the head. Rubber plug came apart in my hand so no choice but to replace it. Then decided to look at the other two seacocks in the gally/engine intake and found they also were in bad shape. (on the last 3 haul outs I've repeatedly asked the guys doing the bottom job to replace the seacocks and was told...oh no they are in good shape). Took the three seacocks out and replaced them ($130 + 30+ 10 + 20 x 3). Then decided that I would take out the first larger one and make sure it was in good shape. Found that the screws were rusted out in rotted wood and that the through hull fitting was plastic and about 1/8 inch of thread was holding the whole thing together. Whew!!!! So replaced that also (160 + 50+ 30 + 10). Pluse another week in the yard....
So throw out the head and use a bucket. Hindsight is $20 x $ 20.
Oh if you wonder what I'm doing here? I also have a couple (yep) of C22's that I'm redoing. Got them at a great price and have given one to my son. Using the 22 for club racing and the C30 cruising. Have had the 30 for almost 25 years and love the old girl. But sure do like the saucy new little thing.... |
Richard Tampa, FL
Boat Name: Whispering Lady
Model/Year: C22 / 1979
Hull No.
Hailing Port: Tampa, FL |
11/25/2008 7:28 AM Pacific Time
I wuold be interested in seeing pictures of a marine head installed on a C22. Can you plaese send me pictures at richardj1169 at yahoo dot com. My wife has been pushing me to install one for the kids. Perhaps a good winter project. |
Rick Meyers Tumwater
Boat Name: Windhorse
Model/Year: 36/1986
Hull No. 736
Hailing Port: Olympia, WA |
12/11/2011 2:25 PM Pacific Time
I've got an '85 Catalina 27 that always has "that smell" in the cabin. I replace the sanitation hoses two years ago and it helped but the odor remains. The odor is stronger up in the v-berth.
My question is it time to pull the holding tank and replace it? I see the new ones use a thicker plastic.
Looking for some advice...thanks. |
Karl Traverse City, MI
Boat Name: Philadelphia
Model/Year: 1985 Catalina 27
Hull No. CTYL5386J485
Hailing Port: Traverse City |
12/11/2011 2:25 PM Pacific Time
I've got an '85 Catalina 27 that always has "that smell" in the cabin. I replace the sanitation hoses two years ago and it helped but the odor remains. The odor is stronger up in the v-berth.
My question is it time to pull the holding tank and replace it? I see the new ones use a thicker plastic.
Looking for some advice...thanks. |
Peter South Daytona, Florida
Boat Name: (Working On A Name)
Model/Year: C-22, 1974
Hull No. 2679
Hailing Port: South Daytona, Florida |
12/12/2011 8:42 AM Pacific Time
The best way I know of is to do the wipe test. Take a rag, slightly moisten, and wipe the holding tank and smell it. Do the same with another rag and wipe the hose and smell. Then you'll know what to replace. Are the fittings tight with double clamps - wipe these as well to see if the smell is stronger from seepage. Is it possible to replace any part of the hose with a section of rigid PVC? Hope this helps. |
R. C. Luiken Milford, DE
Boat Name: Ricochet
Model/Year: C-22 Swing Keel/1986
Hull No. 13560
Hailing Port: Milford, DE/St. Michaels, MD |
12/13/2011 4:22 AM Pacific Time
Also check out the venting system for the tank. Many run through one of the tubes of the bow pulpit and exit through a small hole drilled in the upright portion. Spuge my be blocking the pipe or the hole at the top. |
Rick Meyers Tumwater
Boat Name: Windhorse
Model/Year: 36/1986
Hull No. 736
Hailing Port: Olympia, WA |
12/17/2011 8:17 AM Pacific Time
All good suggestions - thank you. Once the snow melts I'll give them a try. |
Karl Traverse City, MI
Boat Name: Philadelphia
Model/Year: 1985 Catalina 27
Hull No. CTYL5386J485
Hailing Port: Traverse City |
12/17/2011 8:17 AM Pacific Time
All good suggestions - thank you. Once the snow melts I'll give them a try. |