Kip C
Cincinnati, Ohio
Boat Name: Knot Work / Quietude
Model/Year: '86 Cat 22 / '90 Cat 25
Hull No. 13358 / 6021
Hailing Port: Brookville Lake, Indiana |
 11/15/2005 2:19 PM Pacific Time
What year range would a Cat 22 fall into if it did not have a forward hatch? Also, other than the upper right corner of th transom, where else might I look for a vin #? I'll have some parts from this soon.
Thanks,
Kip |
Uwe Behrendt
Rutland Vermont
Boat Name: Joyful
Model/Year: 1977 C22
Hull No. 7200
Hailing Port: Plunder Bay Orwell VT |
11/16/2005 1:57 AM Pacific Time
Upper right is the only place on any boat There may also be a metal data plate in the center of the transome inside just under the tiller. As to the hatch Im not sure about no hatch but the deck hatch was moved up I think in 1980 .
some one please conferm that for me.
Uwe |
David Andrews
Middlebury VT
Boat Name: Winter Dream
Model/Year: 1984
Hull No. CTYH2145M84C
Hailing Port: Kingsland Bay, VT |
11/16/2005 4:29 AM Pacific Time
The hatch is still on the flat forward deck on my 1984 C22. I believe that the move to an angled hatch at the front of the raised cabin occurred the next year, 1985, along with the frameless windows and some other changes. |
Dick King
Melbourne, FL
Boat Name: Twilight Zone
Model/Year: Sport/2005
Hull No. 15546
Hailing Port: Melbourne, FL |
11/16/2005 6:46 AM Pacific Time
The forward hatch on my 1976 boat was an option. The location of the hatch was moved to the forward part of the cabin overhead in 1985 with the introduction of the "new stype." I believe the new style began with hull number 13143. |
Kip C
Cincinnati, Ohio
Boat Name: Knot Work / Quietude
Model/Year: '86 Cat 22 / '90 Cat 25
Hull No. 13358 / 6021
Hailing Port: Brookville Lake, Indiana |
11/16/2005 7:15 AM Pacific Time
This is the only 22 that I've seen that did not have a forward hatch, never knew it was an option. I knew it was an early model, based on the nearly round mast and thin rub rail. Oh, and the unusual winches. Just don't know how old, because I didn't see the vin on the transom. Guess I'll have to take another look. |
Larry
Greenville, SC
Boat Name: Kemo Sabe
Model/Year: C-22 , 1973
Hull No. 2229
Hailing Port: www.keoweesailingclub.com |
11/16/2005 10:43 AM Pacific Time
Kip,
When I bought my first Catalina 22 (of three) the forward hatch was an option, a t hrough hull head, you could buy the boats without mast lights, without sails, *a friend of mine who sold 22's in Augusta said he had a guy come on one day who wanted to buy the 22 without a mast and any sailing gear as he wanted to just motor around* lots more stuff. I have the original invoice of the boat I ordered in 76 which shows all of the options. The boat new was 5K.
Larry |
Willard E. (Will) Lee
Atlanta, GA
Boat Name: Southern Gale
Model/Year: C-22/1977
Hull No. 7657
Hailing Port: Lake Lanier Georgia |
11/16/2005 2:25 PM Pacific Time
I have a 1977 (?) hull #7627 and I do not have a forward hatch. On one hand I would like to have one for safety and access issues but on the other hand, I don't have to worry about leaks. |
Greg Guenther
Belleville, IL
Boat Name: Magnificat
Model/Year: 1970
Hull No. 473
Hailing Port: Belleville, IL |
11/17/2005 5:26 AM Pacific Time
I have a '74 C22, hull #374 that does not have a forward hatch. It has two ports in the front slope of the cabin roof. This worries me somewhat also because there is only one exit but putting a forward hatch in would make the already miniscule foredeck even smaller so I am just living with it.
Greg |
Greg Guenther
Belleville, IL
Boat Name: Magnificat
Model/Year: 1970
Hull No. 473
Hailing Port: Belleville, IL |
11/17/2005 5:27 AM Pacific Time
sorry, the sail # is 374 |
Jim Holliday
Siloam Springs, Arkansas
Boat Name: Gandalf
Model/Year: Cat 22/74
Hull No. 3436
Hailing Port: Grand Lake/NE Oklahoma |
11/18/2005 6:35 AM Pacific Time
Greg,
Sail # 374 would not be a 74, more likely a 70, the first year of production.
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Kip C
Cincinnati, Ohio
Boat Name: Knot Work / Quietude
Model/Year: '86 Cat 22 / '90 Cat 25
Hull No. 13358 / 6021
Hailing Port: Brookville Lake, Indiana |
11/18/2005 9:37 AM Pacific Time
Still can't find the vin.The winches on this boat look like little drums (not much of a lip on top) with a bolt in the center. Does that help date this thing? Did notice the hull is cracked at the bunk support. Anyone needing parts from this vintage.
Thanks,
Kip |
Kip C
Cincinnati, Ohio
Boat Name: Knot Work / Quietude
Model/Year: '86 Cat 22 / '90 Cat 25
Hull No. 13358 / 6021
Hailing Port: Brookville Lake, Indiana |
11/18/2005 9:43 AM Pacific Time
E-mail me at [email protected] |
Uwe Behrendt
Rutland Vermont
Boat Name: Joyful
Model/Year: 1977 C22
Hull No. 7200
Hailing Port: Plunder Bay Orwell VT |
11/18/2005 4:22 PM Pacific Time
The vin is there I’m pretty sure.
Take some tracing paper and as high as you can under the right rear transom rub rail tape it then take a soft lead pencil and do a rubbing it may come up then. Mine is very light and very high almost partially under the rub rail I had to re etch it to make it more visible.
Uwe
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Erv Zimmerman
Anchor Bay Shores, Michigan
Boat Name: Adventuring
Model/Year: 1973
Hull No. 1787
Hailing Port: Anchor Bay, Lake St. Clair |
11/19/2005 12:05 AM Pacific Time
I have the original paperwork from when #390 was purchased new in 1971. Transom numbers were not required until either 72 or 73, so there may not be a number on the transom of #374. (There is none on 390) There is no foredeck hatch on #390.
I also have the original factory invoice for hull #1787. The foredeck hatch is listed as an option on the invoice. |
Erv Zimmerman
Anchor Bay Shores, Michigan
Boat Name: Adventuring
Model/Year: 1973
Hull No. 1787
Hailing Port: Anchor Bay, Lake St. Clair |
11/19/2005 12:15 AM Pacific Time
Couldn't sleep until I looked up when Hull Identification Numbers (HIN) were required. This is from: http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.html
"All boats manufactured or imported on or after November 1, 1972 must bear a HIN. The HIN is a 12 character serial number that uniquely identifies your boat. ..........
The HIN is a Federal requirement; your boat’s registration number is a State requirement similar to the license plate on your car. The HIN, however, is required to be shown on the State certificate of registration."
The website above has an explaination of what the number means.
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Greg Guenther
Belleville, IL
Boat Name: Magnificat
Model/Year: 1970
Hull No. 473
Hailing Port: Belleville, IL |
11/19/2005 6:34 AM Pacific Time
Jim You are right. All I had to do was look at the identifier to the right of my message. I didn't know that '70 ws the first year of production though.
I talked to a guy at Carlyle lake in S. Illinois last summer who told me that the original Catalina 22's were actually a Morgan design. He said that Morgan told one of his employees to take the molds to the landfill and get rid of them and the guy (I guess the original owner of Catalina) took them home to his garage and eventually started laying up boats and selling them. That is how Catalina got started.
As a disclaimer, I have no idea if this is true, it is hearsay but what a neat story.
Greg |
Kip C
Cincinnati, Ohio
Boat Name: Knot Work / Quietude
Model/Year: '86 Cat 22 / '90 Cat 25
Hull No. 13358 / 6021
Hailing Port: Brookville Lake, Indiana |
11/19/2005 7:43 AM Pacific Time
Thanks Erv. My wife does accuse me of not looking for things very well, not the case this time. Now, I'm curious how low the hull number is. |
