Dave Cole
Middleboro, MA
Boat Name: Zephyr
Model/Year: 22' swing, 1973
Hull No. 2241
Hailing Port: Fairhaven, MA |
 12/10/2007 12:12 PM Pacific Time
I have been sailing small sailboats for years and the Catalina 22 I bought last fall is my first “real” sailboat. I was able to take it out once before the weather got cold (just using the mainsail) and had no problems maneuvering around (what a great day!) I want to learn more about sail shaping, mast adjusting and how to get the most of the wind (tell tales etc). I bought the book “Fundamentals of Sailing” by Gary Jobson, but this is way too “fundamental”.
Can anyone recommend a good book or DVD that gets into these subjects?
Btw, I just love all the information on this site as well as other Catalina 22 sites…esp Chip Ford’s site. However, Chips’ site is pretty scary when you look at what he has “sunk” into his “Chip Ahoy”.
It’s going to be a long winter, I just can’t wait to get back out sailing again!
Thanks!
Dave Cole
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Peter
South Daytona, Florida
Boat Name: (Working On A Name)
Model/Year: C-22, 1974
Hull No. 2679
Hailing Port: South Daytona, Florida |
12/10/2007 2:09 PM Pacific Time
My suggestion is The Annapolis Book of Seamanship by John Rousmaniere... 3rd addition. It is dated as far as electronics go, but from a sailing stand point very good. Peter
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12/11/2007 7:05 AM Pacific Time
Hi Dave,
For the 22, a few things to know to put whatever you learn in the books into perspective.
The boat sails best at 10 to 15 degrees over when going to windward. Adjust sail trim with that objective. Mainsail should be pretty flat for going to the wind. If you do not have an adjustable backstay, that means putting a permanent bend in the mast so that the main halyard is 2 to 3 inches from the mast at the point it passes the spreaders, and keeping the foot fairly tight. the boat will be just a tad slower off the wind, but much better on the wind. If you have an adjustable backtay, then you can go from flat to round easily.
Same on the headsail. When you find the correct fairlead location for your forsail, you just move the car back to "flatten" the forsail (moves effort lower in the sail and dumps air out of the top) as the wind climbs, again just keeping the boat relatively flat, until it is time to go to a smaller headsail.
Hope you have fun in the boat!
Tom
7555 Quixotic on the Chesapeake |
Paul McLaughlin
Walnut Creek, CA
Boat Name: Tiare
Model/Year: C22 Swing keel, 1982
Hull No. 10890
Hailing Port: SF Bay |
12/11/2007 7:48 AM Pacific Time
On Netflix, there's a nice selection of sailing instructional DVDs. I watched them all a couple of years back. They won't really teach you how to sail (gotta be on the water to do that), but they are fun to watch. John Rousmaniere has a couple of videos that were especially informative. |
Dave Cole
Middleboro, MA
Boat Name: Zephyr
Model/Year: 22' swing, 1973
Hull No. 2241
Hailing Port: Fairhaven, MA |
12/11/2007 8:10 AM Pacific Time
Thanks Tom,
I assume that most of my sailing will be close-hauled as I will be hovering the coast powered by sea breezes. I did think the mainsail should be as flat as possible for this, but in the book it referenced airplane wings\lift to the dynamics of sailing so I was thinking there maybe something to having a curve in the sail such as an airplane wing. So if it is as simple as just trying to catch as much wind with a flat as possible sail while keeping it 15% or less, then I should be all set with that. I do have a marine grade block and tackle that I can use as a boom vang, but actually the sail seemed pretty flat as it was. And of course balance the two sails to keep tiller pressure down.
Besides learning how to rig the boat, the hardest part has been learning all the terms! When I first started reading these posts, it was like it was a different language!
Thanks Peter and Paul,
I will check them out. Yes, the DVDs may help me get through the winter.
P.S.
Just so people don’t get scared with me being a “newbie”, I am not a newbie to boating, safety and navigation, just “real sailboats”.
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Dave Cole
Middleboro, MA
Boat Name: Zephyr
Model/Year: 22' swing, 1973
Hull No. 2241
Hailing Port: Fairhaven, MA |
12/11/2007 8:26 AM Pacific Time
I just discovered that these DVD's are available on Netfix! |
Stan Hullett
Littleton CO
Boat Name: Hanky Panky
Model/Year: 1979 C-25
Hull No.
Hailing Port: Chatfield State Park |
12/11/2007 8:41 AM Pacific Time
Dave,
I will recommend, The Sail Trim Users Guide by Don Guillette, this by far is the easyest to read, clearest, with out all the usuall theory that just adds confusion. Wife and I had NEVER sailed 10 years ago when we bought our C-22, over the winter we watched many DVD's and read several books, by spring we took Her out alone with just the foresail the first day, sailed for 3-4 hours, what a rush!
Stan & Sal Hullett |
Thomas Jay Holz
Amsterdam, NY
Boat Name: CjAndeai
Model/Year: C-22 1989
Hull No. 15021
Hailing Port: Great Sacandaga Lake |
12/11/2007 2:47 PM Pacific Time
Dave, Chip's site is very informative indeed! I go to used book stores and buy a lot of sailing books, plus I hit every sail makers site to get as much info as possible on tuning, and sail shape. Another great site is www.c22pdx.org. Also, ask around and find a fellow sailor to chat with, and to go sailing with you. I just lost a sailing friend, Captain Al, to cancer this year, but the knowledge that he gave me last year, and before he died, was unmeasurable in building up my confidence. Jay |
Joel
New Lenox, IL
Boat Name: C-Dog
Model/Year: 1978
Hull No. CTYH8427M781
Hailing Port: Varies |
12/18/2019 12:02 AM Pacific Time
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Hailing Port: Lake Conroe |
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